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2001 Elantra

Last post 08-19-2009, 8:45 PM by quadrucle. 5 replies.
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  •  10-12-2007, 2:25 PM 24328

    2001 Elantra

    I have a 2001 hyundai elantra which has been having some problems. Kind of like it's not getting enough gas while I'm driving. Anyway I took it to an auto store and the ran a  scan. I came back with a DTC code P0304 Cylinder 4 Misfire Detected can anyone tell me what that means and how can I fix it.

     

    Thanks, Debbie in VA

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  •  03-14-2009, 7:24 PM 33833 in reply to 24328

    Re: 2001 Elantra

    Hi Debbie,  Hope that by now you have found a resolution to your problem. Realize that you originally posted over a year ago. Reason for my response is to possibly help yourself and other Elantra owners; it was a cue from "Expert HT" posted on http://en.allexperts.com/q/Hyundai-Repair-815/P0302-Check-Engine-Code.htm  which helped me to sort out a VERY perplexing problem with our 2002 Elantra GLS (5-speed). Took me 12 days and a loss of even MORE sanity to track down the problem.  Was getting to the point of "throwing parts at the car".  Our Elantra has been a very good vehicle overall, now with 95K miles by the way. Will note that we drove on some very rough ice for about 150miles this winter (Ohio). My experience has been that vibration can wreak havoc on sensors (etc.), or a large pothole impact for instance. Wife thought car was idling a bit rough but made no comment. Then on a routine trip the engine light came on, seemed to be running OK. Code P0302 only, which is similar to what you obtained. The problem with the P0302 (or 301-304) is that its a virtual "smorgasboard" of potential problems!  Research revealed the following list of possibilities: 1) misfire; 2) wiring problems; 3) ignition/fuel system; 4) injector; 5) ECT/MAF (sic- the car does NOT have a mass airflow sensor, I think they meant MAP sensor which is combined with the IAT [intake air temp. sensor but the ECT is the engine coolant sensor and a separate entity]; 6) vacuum leak in intake system; 7) CKP (crankshaft position sensor faulty or faulty circuit; 8) faulty coil or plug wire; 9) Low compression due to blown head gasket, leaking valve or piston ring; 10) Low/high fuel pressure 11) ECM. WHEW!  A notation is made that if any injector codes are present or pending as well, that area should receive attention/repair first.

    During the 12 days spent trying to sort this out, car developed (or displayed) odd engine speed problems. Intermittent revs to 3000 on cold start, revving excessively between shifts, lack of engine braking upon downshifts. Power was generally good however. The idle seemed only slightly rough to me at times. ONLY upon coming to a COMPLETE stop would the rpm's drop to 600 or so; otherwise they were always near 1500 or greater. Cooling fans coming on for no clear reason when motor was warm.

    I replaced or cleaned the following items (and tested the components where possible): 1) Plugs and wires; 2) Coil; 3)TPS; 4) CTS; 5) Thermostat; 6) carefully checked the IAT/MAP sensor and circuit and simply could not convince myself that there was a problem there; 7) applied new clamps to the two hoses running from the valve cover to the Intake plenum (which Hyundai calls a "surge tank). No luck, same problems!

    Hence a return to "Expert HT's" comments about testing for vacuum leaks near the intake manifold by spraying something like carb cleaner near the gasket and looking for an increase in engine speed or a smoothing of idle. First did an inspection of the gasket flange, and to my amazement found what appeared to be a missing segment sure enough, over cyl#2 !!  Just to verify that this could be a blown (or more likely inhaled - into the motor - UGH) portion of that gasket I ran a bare thin wire (about 22 gage) into the opening. Sure enough that portion of gasket (~1/2") was gone. Yet it made NO noise.

    This is the first time I've seen a broken intake gasket. I have thoughts about the overall design of the intake support assembly, even the gasket (which has slender areas on the top), and wonder how often something like this is unknowingly affecting other Elantra/Hyundai owners?  Daughter has an identical Elantra, and has not had any similar problems. Ironically the more I work on (these/our) "Elantrae", the more I've come to appreciate the overall build quality and design/serviceablity (and have recommended them to many people). We also own two Fords and one Pontiac by the way.

    The reason for this post, besides possibly being of some help to yourself Debbie, is to "pass on" the favor of good folks like Expert HT and so many others who contribute time and effort to help others out via the web forums etc..

     Hope this helps, Rick_N

  •  04-19-2009, 8:26 PM 33980 in reply to 33833

    Re: 2001 Elantra

    Rick,

     My daughter bought a used Elantra about a year ago. The car has been running great but the check engine light came on about six months ago. She recently informed me the car has not been running the same. I got in a drove the car myself. The car idles very rough only when it is put in gear. It does not have any problem accelerating. I have noticed oil leaking from somewhere on the top of the engine which leads me to believe her car has the same problem. My questions are:

     Where is the "intake gasket" located?

    Do you have any pictures available of what the intake looks like?

    Do you remember roughly how much the repair would cost to do-it-yourself?

    The code she received is p0302. The report said " The PCM has determined that a misfire has occured in cylinder #2." I have already changed the spark plugs. The wires look fine.

     

    Thanks in advance for your help.

    Michael

  •  08-08-2009, 3:20 PM 34425 in reply to 33980

    Re: 2001 Elantra

    Hi Michael,

    Apologies, I've not been on the forum for some time and was looking up the above response for someone else when I just saw your questions. I DO have some good photos of many of the parts you make note of, and can tell you a bit about the repair (a lot). Manifold gasket only costs about $13..figures, but it took me some time to do the repair, tried to be very careful with it.  Will do my best to get a more detailed posting up asap. (probably later today).  Again, very sorry to keep you hanging, you likely have the job done by now..but still will try to get that info up for others to see. 

    Sincerely, Rick_N

  •  08-08-2009, 7:11 PM 34427 in reply to 34425

    Re: 2001 Elantra

    Notes & Photos re: Replacement of broken intake manifold gasket, 2002 Elantra (DX series) GLS, 2.0

    Per Michael's request and my note, have sifted through and formatted the relevant photos I have. Unfortunately, despite being compressed I can't list them here, and they are I think, helpful. Will try to find another location for them and let you know, along with the "rest" of the story. Apologies but the pics are just too helpful.

    Sincerely, Rick_N  

  •  08-19-2009, 8:45 PM 34489 in reply to 34427

    Re: 2001 Elantra

    Rick, I think this is what I was also looking for. Can you please upload the photos somewhere?
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