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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.autotropolis.com/cs/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Ask the Salesman:</title><link>http://www.autotropolis.com/cs/forums/5/ShowForum.aspx</link><description>Retired Car Salesman Takes Your Questions! Here is your chance to find out the inside secrets of a dealership right from the source.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2.1 (Build: 60809.935)</generator><item><title>Re: Not informed beforehand about Dealer's &quot;Pre-delivery Service Charge&quot;</title><link>http://www.autotropolis.com/cs/forums/thread/33726.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:03:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">47d518e0-6f86-4bcb-9b63-62b215176eac:33726</guid><dc:creator>HondaofLisle</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.autotropolis.com/cs/forums/thread/33726.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.autotropolis.com/cs/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=5&amp;PostID=33726</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Some dealers have these charges.&amp;nbsp; They&amp;#39;re called prep charges.&amp;nbsp; Typically they&amp;#39;re just there for added gross.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;nbsp;work for a Honda dealership in Chicago,&amp;nbsp;Honda of Lisle.&amp;nbsp; We also have a&amp;nbsp;pre-owned lot,&amp;nbsp;The Used Car Superstore of Lisle and we don&amp;#39;t have this charge.&amp;nbsp; Mercedes may be different because they&amp;#39;re high line.&amp;nbsp; I also have an Infiniti dealer and we do not have this charge.&amp;nbsp; It should have been disclosed up front if he was honest.&amp;nbsp; In the future.&amp;nbsp; Get the sale price, all fees and taxes.&amp;nbsp; That way you can&amp;#39;t go wrong.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Any other questions I can be reached at &lt;a href="http://www.hondaoflisle.com/"&gt;www.hondaoflisle.com&lt;/a&gt; , &lt;a href="http://www.theusedcarsuperstore.com/"&gt;www.theusedcarsuperstore.com&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="http://www.infinitioflisle.com/"&gt;www.infinitioflisle.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Not informed beforehand about Dealer's &quot;Pre-delivery Service Charge&quot;</title><link>http://www.autotropolis.com/cs/forums/thread/31670.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:37:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">47d518e0-6f86-4bcb-9b63-62b215176eac:31670</guid><dc:creator>jahopson</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.autotropolis.com/cs/forums/thread/31670.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.autotropolis.com/cs/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=5&amp;PostID=31670</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;My husband and I just purchased a used car from the local Mercedes Dealer on Saturday. &amp;nbsp;After agreeing upon a price, he said that there would be &amp;quot;plus plus plus&amp;quot; charges such as taxes and tag costs. &amp;nbsp;We agreed, verbally. &amp;nbsp;THEN, when he presented us with the offer form to sign, there was a preprinted section for $599 with a description which said, &amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;This charge represents costs and profit to the seller for items such as inspecting, cleaning, and adjusting vehicles and preparing documents relayed to the sale.&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp;We didn&amp;#39;t say anything at the time but we felt &amp;quot;ambushed,&amp;quot; although we went ahead and bought the car. &amp;nbsp;Still, we went home feeling angry that he had not told us about this&amp;quot;pre-delivery service charge&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp;beforehand but waited until after we&amp;#39;d agreed on the price. &amp;nbsp;When he called today to ask if we were happy with everything, I questioned hm about this charge and he said this was a standard charge for all the vehicles they sold, new and used, and it was non-negotiable. &amp;nbsp;I said we should have been told about this charge prior to us making an offer, since there was no mention of it on the price tag pasted on the car&amp;#39;s windshield and he did not mention it when he said &amp;quot;plus plus plus.&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp;He acted very offended and asked if I felt he was deceitful and I said, &amp;quot;Yes. &amp;nbsp;It might have changed what we offered.&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp;He said we would have ended up at the same number. I said that might have been the case but I would have like to have been informed of ALL costs above and beyond the purchase price (not just taxes and tag). &amp;nbsp;He said in his 30+ years in the business NO ONE had ever questioned this charge and he had never disclosed it and no salesman he knew disclosed it, that &amp;quot;everyone knows there are fixed dealer fees associated with a sale that buyers must pay.&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp;I told him the omission of these charges left a bad taste in our mouths after what would have been an otherwise very pleasant transaction. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Is he right about this? &amp;nbsp;Am I wrong to feel as if we should have been informed? &amp;nbsp; And are these fees the norm? &amp;nbsp;Why aren&amp;#39;t they simply part of the price of doing business?&lt;/p&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>